APRIL 17, 2013 UPDATE: It looks like the TioCorp offer to import TIP cars may be in deep trouble. TioCorp has not been answering emails for weeks since an April 2, 2014 new Mexican law may have legally closed the previous amparo loophole: DOF: DECRETO por el que se expide la Ley de Amparo and “Under new rules, concessionaires in industries including telecoms, mining and public transport (and others) will not be allowed to launch (amparos).” http://www.economist.com/…-implementation-well
Based on TioCorp’s consistent disclaimers on their offer sheets, refunds are in doubt for gringos who sent 50% $$ deposits in up-front money, and the validity of TioCorp’s past imports remains in doubt. Remember the TioCorp disclaimer we highlighted in our first reports on them:
“… We (TioCorp) act as a sales agent only and cannot guarantee the legality of your vehicle once processed.”
TioCorp also now starts off the Import a Car section with this new troubling statement:
” Disclaimer: The information contained in this section may contain errors due to changes in legislation or policy since the information was compiled. Readers are advised to read insurance policy contracts and seek legal opinions concerning Mexico customs legislation and other laws in the applicable jurisdictions. “
Here is what Tiocorp is emailing folks who are asking for answers or sent them $$$:
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From: TioCorp Insurance – Importing Vehicles <email@example.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Subject: Importation Update
To: TioCorp Insurance – Importing Vehicles <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Hello everyone…just a quick note for those asking for updates.
There has been some rumours that the Amparo for “J” and some other vehicles may have been closed, but we have not been able to have the Import Agent confirm that definitively. Two of our clients reported yesterday that they had been told by another agent that the Amparo remains open and 100’s of “J” vehicles are coming in. We have asked your Import Agent for confirmation but have not received clarification. We are unsure. Until we do, we have changed our website to reflect that possibility.
For everyone who have submitted deposits, your deposits have been transferred to the Import Agent and we are told your vehicle is in cue. We are trying to get an update on status of Pedimentos but have lost communication with the Agent. This has happened before when he was out of touch due to any number of reasons, once for more than 10 days apparently due to volume of work at his end.
If you are one of the many people waiting for a quote for your vehicle, RV, motorcycle, trailer or other item, we too are waiting for the quote from the Import Agent. We will get back to you as soon as we receive a response.
We realize the wait is frustrating. For those who have asked for contact information for the Import Agent, the Agent is Mr. Andres Gonzalez and their site is http://www.gestoria-vehicular-de-occidente.com. You can Google “gestoria-vehicular-de-occidente” to read more.
In the meantime, we continue to pressure for processing of Pedimentos and quicker quotes. Due to the volume of emails and pending quotes, we will send out updates to keep you informed.
Importing Vehicles into Mexico
Mexico +52 (376) 766-3978
Fax +52 (376) 766-3974
USA & Canada (toll free) 1-888-712-7023
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Interesting information Steve. I did e-mail TioCorp in March and received a quote and they indicated that our vehicle could be nationalized. I chose to deal with an agent in Merida (arm’s length instead of across the country). The process has started and as soon as I can post a picture of legal Mexican plates on our vehicle, I will share more details.
I don’t wish to raise anyone’s hopes until, like the “future car ferry from Florida to Progreso”, actually occurs!!! 😀
Hello Dave….can you provide the name and contact information for the import agent in Merida. Gracias
kaytordg…As I mentioned, until I receive the legal Mexican registration and plates, I am hesitant to post contact info. I don’t wish to build up false hopes for anyone. My fingers are crossed at this point.
GOOD LUCK, Dave & Shirl !
In contrast, we’ve received 5 comments that Hiram Cervera’s group has not been replying to email, though he did complete one import of an SUV for a good friend. We look forward to hearing about the option you used.
I have a resedente permenente visa and as a result returned my TIP car to Canada after all the confusion set in. I am now evaluating the pros and cons of driving back to Nogales and importing the vehicle. I have contacted an individual, Lic Oscar Fco. Angulo, who was suggested on Rolly Brooke’s web site. The fact that he was on this web site gives me a certain degree of comfort but I feel that some due diligence is required. So, if you or your readers can offer any information with regards to this agent or any other agent I would appreciate it.
The reason that we have listed Oscar Angulo as a recommended broker, is a series of good well-written posts from one Mexconnect reader who used him recently: http://www.mexconnect.com/cgi-bin/forums/gforum.cgi?post=189035;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread for the brokers list we provided,
http://www.mexconnect.com/cgi-bin/forums/gforum.cgi?post=188687;search_string=The%20broker%20we%20used%20%28Nogales%29%20was%20Oscar%20Angulo;#188687 for the poster’s story/report.
I believe this is also why Rolly listed Sr. Angulo.
Thank you very much for your prompt reply. This certainly gives me a greater degree of confidence in Sr. Angulo. There is so much misinformation out there it has become a little scary. There are going to be people scammed from not doing due diligence.
Thanks again for being a solid source of information.
HI, TO EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS OSCAR FRANCISCO ANGULO.
AND I RECENTLY HELPED TO MUCH AMERICANS IN HIS MATTERS. TO MY FORTUNE, EVERY OF THEM, SATISFIED COUSTUMER.
YOU CAN SEE POST ON WATHTSUP MAZ, AND OTHER OF AMERICAN SITES,
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION. ILL BE GLAD TO PROVIDED INFO.
CEL. 631 1201015, OFFIC. 631 3152571, NEXTEL 62*259663*2 OR USA CEL 520-988 1986.
or email me email@example.com.
Hello Sr. Angulo,
Welcome to Yucalandia.
Yes, we have posted your name and contact information, as a customs broker for crossing at Nogales Mexico. Posters on Mexconnect have used your services and written very good things about your services for permanently importing cars. Have you read our article on Importing and Driving Cars in Mexico – and –Options for Foreign-Plated “TIP” Car Owners in Mexico, esp for Permanent Residents with references to you and your services?
How do you handle the Aduana rule for having emissions certifications for permanent imports?
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