Feb. 28 Update on Progreso Aduana’s Take on Foreign-Plated Cars for Residente Temporal Permits

February 28, 2013
Since Nov. 9, 2012, the dramatic legal changes in INM categories has left much uncertainty for Residente Temporal and Residente Permanente card holders, and created much uncertainty for local Aduana offices who are in charge of renewing or denying the extension of the expiration dates of expat’s Permisos de Importación Temporal de vehículos, (a.k.a “TIPs”), because the current Ley Aduanera and Reglamento use only the outdated Inmigrante and No Inmigrante terminology for INM permits.

Some local Aduana offices are issuing extensions of the TIP expiration dates and others are not. Since some police departments are now used to seeing past annual letters from Aduana documenting the updated TIP expiration dates, these police are now requiring TIP car drivers to have an Aduana letter, or the police threaten to confiscate the car. => a big mess…

Here is a copy of the latest volley fired in this dispute. This is a letter issued by Aduana Progreso, Feb. 25, 2013:
(The really fun/dismaying stuff is in the last paragraph of the letter – where they ban even Residente Temporal immigrants from having TIP vehicles.)

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Administracion General de Aduanas
Aduana de Progreso
Departamento de Informatica, Contabilidad y Glasa

Progreso, Yucatan, a 25 de Febrero de 2013.

Por medio del presente y en atención a su escrito recibido en esta Aduana con fecha 19 de Febrero de 2013,se informa que con fundamento en lo previsto por el articulo 106 fracción IV, inciso a), de la Ley Aduanera en relación con la Regla 4.2.7. de las Reglas de Carácter General en Materia de Comercio Exterior para el 2012, publicadas en el Diario Oficial de la Federación eI 29 de Agosto de 2012, vigentes.

Se le informa que su calidad migratoria actual de; Residente Temporal, emitida por el Instituto Nacional de Migración, y presentada ante esta Aduana de Progreso, no esta contemplada en las calidades migratorias en las que se puede solicitar una prórroga del permiso temporal de Importación de acuerdo a los al articulo 10 ó fracción IV, inciso a) de la Ley Aduanera, que indica:

Se entiende par regimen de importacion temporal, la entrada al pais de mercancias para permanecer en él por tiempo limitado y can una finalidad especifica, siempre que retornen al extranjero en el mismo estado por los siguientes plazos:

IV. Por el plazo que dure su calidad migratoria. incluyendo sus prórrogas, en los siguientes casos:
a) Las de vehiculos propiedad de extranjeros que se internen al pais con calidad de inmigrantes rentistas 0 de no inmigrante, excepto tratándose de refugiados y asilados politicos, siempre que se trate de un solo vehiculo.

Los vehiculos que importen turistas y visitantes locales. incluso que no sean de su propiedad y se trate de un solo vehiculo.

Los vehiculos podrán ser conducidos en territorio nacional por el importador, su cónyuge, sus ascendientes, descendientes o hermanos. aun cuando éstos no sean extranjeros, por un extranjero que tenga alguna de las calides des migratarias a que se refiere este inciso, o por un nacional, siempre que en este último caso, viaje a bordo del mismo cualquiera de las personas autorizadas para conducir el vehiculo y podrán efectuar entradas y salidas múltiples.

Los vehlculos a que se refiere este inciso, deberán cumplir con los requisitos que señale el Reglamento.

Por lo que en términos de la Regla 402.7.de las Reglas de Carácter General en Materia de Comercio Exterior para el 2012, publicadas en el Diario Oficial de la Federaci6n el 29 de Agosto de 2012. No se le podrá otorgar la prórroga del permiso de importación temporal, de acuerdo con su condición de estancia actual de: Residente Temporal, toda vez que no está contemplada en las condiciones de estancia permitidas en las cuales se puede solicitar una prórroga del permiso de importación temporal.

Lic. Emilio de la Peña Hernandez

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The letter also includes a signature, an official Aduana Office certification stamp, and stamped document numbers. The letter was sent to an anonymous Yolisto poster.

I did NOT add any BOLD or italicized emphasis – these are all by Aduana.
This is my best typing job (so please forgive any typos).

My crude translations interpret that Aduana Progreso has decided that both Residente Temporal and Residente Permanente card holders no longer have the “Inmigrante Rentista” nor “No Inmigrante” INM permits required by the Reglamento to allow extension of the TIP expiration date. This means that these foreigners no longer meet the requirements for having a TIP. As such, even Resident Temporal card holders with TIP cars, must now take those cars out of Mexico. (This fits Ric Hoffmann’s understandings, as described in another thread => tally 1 pt for Ric ! )

Here is a translation of the key (last) paragraph:
In terms of Rule 402.7. of the General Rules on Foreign Trade for 2012, published in the Official Journal of the Federación on August 29, 2012. Extensions of the temporary import permit may not be granted, for (residents) with the current residence status: Residente Temporal, since this (status) is not covered by the accepted conditions for the vehicle to remain in the country, which is (normally) allowed by requesting an extension of the temporary import permit (TIP).

Some of our local police in Yucatan are taking a similar stance, threatening to confiscate TIP cars that have no Aduana letters describing a valid TIP expiration date, which creates a bit of urgency for Resident Temporal and Residente Permanente expats with TIPs. Savvy translators may note that this Progreso Aduana letter does include legal text authorizing the TIP holder, relatives, and gringos with similar residency permits to drive the vehicle out of Mexico (but even that clause gets a bit squishy by including a reference to also being allowed to make multiple exits and re-entrys).

Blah, blah, blah….

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Is this the final word on national Aduana policy for Residente Permanente and Residente Temporal TIP holders?
I hope not.

For example,  one guy reports that the Queretaro Aduana office told his wife that they allow both Residente Permanente and Residente Temporal TIP holders to extend/renew the expiration dates on their car permits. Isabel Chavel of Aduana de Queretaro is now telling people: “No” That is a misunderstanding. Aduana Queretaro does not approve extending TIPs for Residente Permanentes (Isabel Chavez – 01-442-227-0100 ext 60113).

The current official policy of Aduana Distrito Federal (Mexico City main office) is that Residente Temporal Rentista (not working in Mexico) permit holders are allowed to extend their Aduana TIP permits on their foreign plated cars.**

If your local Aduana office is not allowing you to renew with a Residente Temporal, Lic. Karen Villasenor of Aduana in Mexico city says to contact her and they will correct the local Aduana office’s incorrect opinions. Have your contrary Aduana office contact:
Lic. Karen Villasenor, 01-55-5802-0000 x46889
Administracion Central — 01-55-5802-2069
ciitev_AduanaMexico@sat.gob.mx

All of these expat reports of 4 different policies prompts me to encourage expats to write to their AMBASSADOR and their closest Consul in Mexico, and request that their Consul contact the head of Aduana DF about the variety of conflicting policies being used by various local Aduana offices.

We could ask that our Ambassador and Consul support an effort for the head of Aduana DF issue an official memo, a directive, or an executive order that temporarily resolves the current confusion over the unclear legal status of foreign plated cars for immigrants with the new Residente Permanente and Residente Temporal status.

A good interim policy could be:

Until further notification, all Aduana Permisos de Importación Temporal de vehículos remain valid, as long as the permit holder maintains a valid INM permit, including foreigners with Residente Temporal y Residente Permanente Tarjetas de Residencia.

US Ambassador in Mexico:  acsmexicocity@state.gov

Canadian Ambassador in Mexico City: mxico@international.gc.ca.

Canadian Consulate in Cancun cancun@international.gc.ca

San Miguel Allende US Consul Agent, Edward Clancy: consuladosma@gmail.com
Merida Yucatan US Consulate: meridacons@state.gov
et al?

???
steve

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**After-thought:  Do you live in an area where your Aduana office is rejecting applications to extend TIP expiration dates for either Residente Temporal or Residente Permanente immigrants?    If you have a TIP, and you really want to preserve your deposit with Banjercito,   you may need to make a run to the border and surrender your TIP before the 15 day grace period is over   (Go within 14 days of your current TIP expiration date).

Also consider:    If INM takes 6 weeks to process your new Residente Temporal, and you do not surrender the TIP in time, then Banjercito will confiscate your deposit anyway.     It is your responsibility to surrender or extend the permit within 14 days of the expiration date. Many Aduana offices are allowing Residente Temporal applicants to bring in official printed proof that they have started their Temporary Resident process, (the printed page from INM), and apply early to Aduana for extending their TIP expiration date – making the Aduana application in-time to preserve the deposit, even before the Residente Temporal card has been issued by INM.
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9 Responses to Feb. 28 Update on Progreso Aduana’s Take on Foreign-Plated Cars for Residente Temporal Permits

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  2. readingterminal says:

    Actually, the issue should be brought to the attention of the Ambassador, US Embassy, Mexico, D.F.. Local consuls normally have very, very limited authority with respect to questioning lawful actions by host country officials. As for asking for info from the US Consulate in Mérida, lots of luck, luck even to get any response, even a non-responsive one.

    I would suspect that we will see a graceful offer of an interim remedy if the President of Mexico’s office hears of expat anguish. With immigration “reform” coming on the table in the USA, I do not believe it in Mexico’s interest to stir up a hornet’s nest. There is simply a disconnect between Aduana regs based on an obsolete Mexican immigration law and such regs as applied or misapplied to the most recent Mexican immigration law.

    That said, the TIP was a temporary privilege extended to certain classes of foreign residents. One could wish that temporary means permanent, just is not the case.

  3. Linda Crandall says:

    My husband and I are moving permanently to the Puerto Vallarta area later this year. We want to drive our truck down with our belongings. If we cannot have a US plated vehicle in MX how is anybody going to move there in the future?

    • yucalandia says:

      Visitors can temporarily import foreign plated vehicles. It is the Residente Temporal and Residente Permanente immigrants who may have problems with their TIPs.

      There are also at least 3 local Aduana offices who are approving TIPs for Residente Temporal immigrants: San Miguel Allende, Lazaro Cardenas, and Zihuatanejo.

      We are hoping that if our Ambassadors and Consuls communicate the concerns of TIP holders, that Aduana DF will come forward with a workable policy – a policy that is used uniformly at all Aduana locations.
      steve

  4. R Blair says:

    This latest post says Aduana in San Miguel Allende is approving TIPS for Residente Temporal Immigrants. To my knowledge there is no Aduana office in SMA. SMA residents generally go to Aduana in Queretaro. Others who live closer to Leon go to Aduana in Leon. On what basis can Yucalandia say SMA is approving TIPS? What is the basis for such a comment when no such office exists? Of course INM has an office in SMA, but they clearly state they do not handle the TIPS and can advise nothing about Aduana’s policies.

    • yucalandia says:

      Hey R,
      Thanks for the clarification.

      The person who reported about how is wife (a successful and effective professional INM and Aduana facilitator) has been solving these problems for foreigners/immigrants in SMA. It is my error that I thought he was talking about SMA policy.

      Actually, some Aduana offices ARE approving extensions of the TIP expiration dates for Residente Permanente immigrants, like the Queretaro Aduana office.

      You do have to apply for a prórroga with Aduana BEFORE your TIP expires to have a chance to keep the TIP.

      The person reporting on SMA policies, made this new report today on Mexconnect – clarifying my previously confused perception on the Aduana location:
      “This is as explained regarding Aduana in Queretaro.

      My wife (a professional INM & Aduana facilitator) called Aduana 01-442-227-0100 ext 60113 (today: March 1, 2013) and spoke with Isabel Chavez. For those with Permanent Resident visa your car is legal since there are no new laws relative to Permanent Residents but you will have lost your deposit unless you have taken your car out of Mexico prior to the expiration date of your car permit.

      For those who are Temporary Residents you need to go to Aduana in Queretaro well before your visa expires.

      Start your INM process 30 days before it expires. Take a copy of your INM Temporary Resident visa application along with your passport, car title, the letter you submitted to INM (states your address, citizenship, passport number, how long you are applying for a visa), page with NUT number and name and also car permit you obtained when you entered Mexico. You ask for a prorroga to protect your deposit. It will be protected for the duration of your Temporary Resident visa be it 1, 2, 3 or 4 years. This information is then sent to Aduana in Mexico City. ”
      http://www.mexconnect.com/cgi-bin/forums/gforum.cgi?post=186669;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;page=last;#last

      There are also some Regional Aduana directors saying that there will likely be a general one-time amnesty sometime in the future, allowing foreign-plated cars to be permanently imported for a fee (or taken out of Mexico).

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      It really is a mess right now – with some other Aduana offices refusing to approve even Resident Temporal from keeping their TIPs and kicking out even their TIP cars…. so we advise writing both your Ambassador and your Consul, asking them to contact Aduana DF and support an effort to get the head of Aduana to issue a written statement for the interim period to clean up the huge differences between how each Aduana office decides what rules to make up.

      A good interim policy could be:

      ” Until further notification, all Aduana Permisos de Importación Temporal de vehículos remain valid, as long as the permit holder maintains a valid INM permit, including Residente Temporal y Residente Permanente Tarjetas de Residencia. ”
      Happy Trails,
      steve

  5. Gary says:

    I have written to US Consul in Merida and US Ambassador in DF. Hope others will do the same. The problem for many is that this needs to be dealt with quickly as some people have very little time to spare. Luckily for me, I have a few months before making a decision.

  6. Mario Sabljak says:

    We live in Puerto Vallarta and have a permanent resident status since jan.19.My VIN no. starts with J,so I can not legaly import it.Where do I go (in Puerto Vallarta)to get extencion for temporari importention?We are planing to take our car aut of Mexico for good on Apr.20 Any advise???Thanks Mario!!!!

    • yucalandia says:

      Hey Mario,
      I think you are out of luck on extending your TIP, unless Aduana Queretaro will do it (doubtful? – read the earlier comment with the phone number for a helpful Aduana agent in Queretaro). Since you got your Residente Permanente card on Jan. 19, officially you only had 15 days to renew the permit.

      The early February powerpoint presentation that the Aduana PV folks gave in NV said that the PV office was NOT extending TIPs for even Residente Temporal, let alone Residente Permanente. This means that in your area, the police may consider it illegal to drive your car. This also means that if you got in even a minor accident, the police may permanently confiscate your vehicle.

      The guaranteed legal route you have is to apply for a Safe Returns permit (Retorno Seguro) from Aduana, and take the car out of Mexico during the 3 – 5 day window specified on the permit. See: Retorno Seguro Program.

      You may get away with driving it between now and April 20, but we can offer no assurances of this. Definitely carry copies of Article 106 Fracc. IV (Aduana Law) and Fracc 17, 17.1, 17.4 of the SAT/Aduana operations manual to show to police to hope they let you off, if stopped: IMPORTANT RULES FOR OPERATING FOREIGN PLATED CARS IN MEXICO: Article 106 and Manual de Operación para la Importación Temporal de Vehículos y Motocicletas: Article 17 Sec. 17 17.1 & 17.4. When other gringos have shown these to police, they have been allowed to slide-by with warnings …
      Hope it works out OK,
      steve

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