2012 INM Office Closure Holiday Schedule ???

Word on the web is that like other Gob. Offices: INM offices will be closing early for Christmas/New Years holidays. One rumor speculates that they may close mid-week next week for the holidays, re-opening Jan. 8, 2013. I spoke with our Merida INM personnel today, and they said they heard that they will close sometime between Dec. 15 and Dec. 20.

We are waiting to hear from DF when the official holiday closing period starts.

….The ever-diligent extra-reliable Lawyer Freimuth has found legal citations that INM offices should close for the holidays on either Dec 19 or 20, and then reopen on Jan. 2, 2013…

Get your applications in now???
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New Documentation Rules for Bringing Children into Mexico

There are new rules for the letter giving permission to bring a child into Mexico without both parents.
“Entering Mexico with Children
Both the US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) and the Canadian government advise bringing a notarized letter from a parent who is not traveling with the children. The letter should certify that the children have their parent(s) permission to travel with the other parent. https://help.cbp.gov/…w/parental%20consent.

The Mexican Consulate in Calgary, Canada now describes that this consent letter must be translated into Spanish and Notarized. For Canadians the document must also be “Legalized” to be accepted by Mexico: “If the document is issued in Canada it must be notarized, legalized by the Mexican Consulate or Embassy in Canada, and translated into Spanish.http://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/calgary/index.php/inicio

The SRE Website for Canada describes the Legalization process as: http://embamex.sre.gob.mx/canada_eng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1255&Itemid=41
Legalization of Foreign Documents (for Canada)
Consular legalization is performed on foreign public documents that must be valid for legal purposes in Mexico. Legalization may be provided to the signature and/or stamps contained in public documents. It is an act of certification through which the consular official certifies that the signature or seal is from a government office or official, or from a notary located within the consular jurisdiction. ..
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US citizen-children traveling without both parents must only have a translated notarized permission letter. We describe the basic elements needed in the letter in the link listed above.
Happy Trails,
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Mexico’s New Labor Law Approved

Nov. 4, 2015 Updates:

The very talented & highly-reliable Chapala lawyer, Lic. Spencer McMullen notes that:   “Domestic workers are an exemption in the law, for them IMSS is not mandatory.”    and   “The law doesn’t distinguish between part time and full time employees.

But … that exemption does not exclude/exempt us from paying Aguinaldos, Severance Pay, Vacation pay, etc.

Other key calculations:

Severance pay:
 1.  Severance
If the employee worked more than 28 days, it’s at least an automatic 90 days of salary.  See the “Finiquito” section below for specifics.

2.  Prima de antiguedad
12 days pay per each year worked.

3.  Vacation pay
Vacation pay for current year worked (remember that they should also receive this pay over the past years worked)

1st year – 6 days salary
2 years – 8 days
3 years – 10 days
4 years – 12 days
5 to 9 years – 14 days
10 to 14 years – 16 days
15 to 19 years – 18 days
20 to 24 years – 20 days
25 to 29 years – 22 days
30 to 34 years – 24 days
35 to 39 years – 26 days

4. Aguinaldo
The annual aguinaldo is the equivalent of 15 days of pay.
It is NOT a Christmas bonus.   It is a mandatory wage payment that is due by the 20’th of December.

One way of determining the annual aguinaldo is to multiply the total days they worked in current year by 15, then divide by 365 days, and then multiply by the daily rate:
For a worker that comes in 2 days a month for 9 months =>  18 days x 15 = 270
270 / 365 = 0.7392 …    0.74 x   $Daily Rate ($100 pesos?)   = $ 73.92

Note.  The “Daily Rate” is based on a full week.  For example, if your maid only works two days per week,  and gets paid $700 pesos per week ($350 pesos per day of work).  You take the weeks salary of $700 divided by 7  =  $100 pesos is the daily rate.

Finiquito:
Calculators for final severance benefits being paid to domestic and household help (muchachas y mozos):
http://www.nominax.com/CalculadoraFiniquitoLiquidaci%C3%B3n/tabid/132/Default.aspx

**If the employee quits,  then the amount owed to them is small.
Under CALCULAR – select: ” SOLO FINIQUITO “.

LIQUIDACION + 20 DIAS  … is for an outright termination without documented cause.

LIQUIDACION is a mutually agreed upon termination.

Salario Diario:   Take the amount paid in a week and divide by 7 for daily rate.
For example, a person who works 2 days a week and makes $350 p / day. Take $700 pesos divided by 7  => a daily rate of $100 pesos.

Salario Diario Integrado:   This is the same as the daily rate, unless you are paying extra for healthcare etc.

Área geográfica donde trabajó:   generally “B”,
… unless you are in Zone “A” which includes Mexico City, Monterrey, Acapulco, Guadalajara, Puebla, etc and all of of Baja California and Baja California Sur.

As always:  Prepare a termination letter + a copy.  Be sure it is signed and witnessed.
Termination Pay:
It is best to contact a good labor lawyer to find out the latest rules and the local twists of your state,   but for general information,  consider these rules of thumb:

1.  When an employee is terminated, he is entitled to termination pay; unless:

1a. The employment was for a specified period of time, such as the period of building a house, or for house sitting for a winter while the owner is out of town. It is best to have the time period stipuled in writing.

1b. Termination for “just cause”. This can be a very complicated issue.  It is best to get the help of a labor lawyer, as the employee can wreak havoc by appealing to the labor review board.   “Just cause” is spelled out in detail in the law.

Termination pay shall include 3-months of salary plus 20 days for each year worked plus prorated vacation and Christmas pay.
20 days of salary means 20 times the daily rate (which is 1/7 of the weekly rate).
Example: A maid worked 2 days per week for $50 pesos per day for 4 years. That is $100 per week. There are 13 weeks in 3 months. Her daily rate is $100/7 = $14.29.

Her termination pay would be ($13 x 100) + (20 x $14.29 x 4) = $2443.20 … plus any Christmas and vacation pay that may be due.

If the termination payment cannot be made at the time of termination, regular salary shall continue until the termination is paid in full.

If the employee quits voluntarily, termination pay is sometimes considered to be not required.** (See the ** section above for calculating the finiquito .)
For this reason, a common tactic to avoid termination pay is to induce the employee to quit.  …  Be careful with this because Mexican Labor law describes what an employer cannot do to harass a worker and his family.

According to multiple lawyers, the severance pay package is negotiable … but it must be at the written agreement of both parties,  and generally requires a good relationship with the employee, plus signed receipts and the signed & witnessed release.

2012 Original Article
Pres. Calderón signed a new Ley Federal de Trabajo this past Thursday. According to labor law experts, a number of rules governing expats and their employees have remained the same, while other sections have changed substantially, including the sections describing how employers are allowed to treat their household help and their construction workers. . . .

The full article on the New Labor Law is at
Mexico’s New 2012 Labor Law and The Effects on Expats with Household Help

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Mexican Immigration Questions Answered by Mazatlan INM Office


Immigration Experts and Expats from Mazatlan submitted a block of questions to their local INM office about the new INM rules. Here is a list of the questions and answers, as provided by the much honored & helpful reader/contributor John Garvin. . . .

The List of Q & A is at Mexican Immigration Questions Answered by San Miguel Allende INM Office

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New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico – Nov. 11, 2012
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Precedents for Aduana to Restrict Permanent Residents from Keeping TIP Cars

Our full article is at:Precedents for Aduana to Restrict Permanent Residents from Keeping TIP Cars

The issue of whether the newly minted Residente Permanente expats will be allowed to keep their foreign-plated cars, is quite a hot potato. …and still very much unresolved…

Consider this quote from Yolisto:
(Under current interpretations of the INM’s new rules), I would qualify for permanent resident status, which would be awesome. I am still unclear if I would be able to keep my U.S. plates under as a permanent resident. I keep reading conflicting information on the subject. My Toyota cannot be nationalized, so that would be a deal breaker.

Steve, can you help?

Our reply:
“Morning Beachbum,

Aduana regulations control our Temporary Import Permits (TIP) on foreign-plated cars and trucks. The current Aduana regulations are written using the old INM terminology and old category names, so no one knows how to apply the Aduana regs to the new INM categories. Aduana has issued no guidance and/or no opinions on how they will handle our TIPs, with all the INM changes.

I personally think that Temporary Residents will be allowed to keep their TIPs and Permanent Residents will have to surrender their TIPS, but ¡ Keep their cars ! – hopefully in some GRAND AMNESTY – as they did once in the past…. Still, opinions offered without explaining the justifications are generally worth squat.

Consider the four legal principles Aduana used in establishing TIP rules:
The Aduana regs allow the old No Inmigrantes (various FM3s) and the old Inmigrante Rentista (just one type of FM2s) – temporary residents – to keep their vehicles. . . .

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Who Are the New Baby Boomers ~ Are they Moving to Mexico?

Our full article on Who are the Boomers Moving to Mexico is at:
Baby Boomer Demographics, Their Assets, and Their Likely Effects on Mexico
Over the years, there have been tons of commentaries by armchair expat experts opining about the living in Mexico, about future trends in Real Estate, offering broad advice about what to invest in and what to expect for the future for those of us who live in Mexico. or

Are there other more-likely waves of very different new types of gringos headed to Mexico, starting heavily in 2014, and rolling out through 2030 or 2035? Official Census Data seems to tell a different tale:

Demographics of the Upcoming Wave of Baby Boomer Retirees

The Baby Boom generation represents the largest single group of American and Canadian citizens in both countries, with the highest birth rates seen in the past 75 years. There has been a recent spate of fearful comments made by some expats across Mexico about how the new INM rule changes will drive current expats out of Mexico, and chase away future snow-birds. Some folks claim that Baby Boomers have relatively low net worths and cannot meet the new INM monthly income standards, …

Believable? … Credible? … Are they Fear-Based … or Fact Based?

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INM Regional Office Requirements for Getting Mexican Residency and Immigration Rules – Updates

Our full article on the New Immigration Rules for Mexico is at:
New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico – Nov. 11, 2012

I talked with an INM supervisor and an experienced agent for an hour yesterday at our Merida office, and confirmed the following things for how Merida INM is handling residency applications.

1. They confirmed that all current FM2 and FM3 permit holders get full credit for time they have completed on their current permit. 2. If you want a Residente Permanente card, FM2 and FM3 years count towards the 4 years of Residente Temporal requirement.
3. FM2 and FM3 holders are asked to submit a cover letter describing that you want a “renovacion” of your current permit, changing to either Residente Temporal or Residente Permanente.
4. FM2 holders with Familiar/spouse status are eligible to apply for Residente Permanente after completing 2 years on their FM2.
5. The income requirements for proving fiscal independence are cut in half (1/2) for both home-owning Residente Permanente and Residente Temporal applicants who already have valid Inmigrante Rentista or No Inmigrante Rentista permits. This same condition is being reported from Yucalandia readers across Mexico.
6. They are generally not requiring bank statements from people who already have their FM2 Rentista or FM3 Rentista. They do however, reserve the right to ask for proof of sufficient income.
7. New applicants for Residente Permanente or Temporal (who have no current FM2 or FM3) are required to show proof of sufficient income.
8. If you have a “Lucrativo” category of prior INM permit, then you likely have to show bank statements. e.g. Permisos para realizar actividades remuneradas , have different requirements than Rentistas or Jubilados.
9. When you enter your information into the INM website, prior to going to your local office: One block of information is actually a Formato Basico, so most people do not have to fill out a Formato Basico at the INM office.
10. Bring the standard stuff on your first visit to the INM office: Letter, copies of key passport pages, passport, current INM card, but NO bank statements. They will ask for these later if they decide they want them.

Our full article with all the details on the New Immigration Rules for Mexico is at:
New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico – Nov. 11, 2012

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Dec. 21, 2012: Maya Calendar Mystery and Math vs. Thor’s Day, Worship the Sun Day, et al

Our full article on just what might happen on Dec. 21, 2012, and the Mysteries of the Maya Calendar can be read in our article at:
2012 Maya Calendar Mystery and Math vs. Thor’s Day, Worship the Sun Day, …

Maya Calendar People:
What will you be doing on Dec 21 / 23, 2012

This is an appeal to all Maya Calendar People, and the rest us of us too, to tell us what you will be doing when the odometer rollllllls over….

Really, all the excitement is about one part of at least a 6 part Maya Calendar. The upcoming changing takes us through a truly magic number that occurs just one day out of almost 2 million days. Just like European cultures have magic numbers like Lucky 7’s, bad 13’s, etc, the ancient Maya thought 13 was special. 13 months in the religious calendar (Tzolkin calendar), etc.

Since the Long Count (a 5 digit number) gets to the value 13.0.0.0.0 only once every 5000 years, … then sometime between Dec. 21 or Dec. 23, we will have moved from the first magic-number of the Calendar’s Long count starting date (4-Ajau, Dios 9, 8-Kumku) of the Long Count, through 5,126 years as 1,872,000 days, to the mysterious magic ” 13.0.0.0.0 “, when the odometer rolls over to … 4-Ajau 8-Lanl’n.

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The mystery deepens, as this magic date is only mentioned on 2 stelae, but because celestial events, ….

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Curious readers who would like to know more about the surprisingly rational, predictable, math based Maya Calenders can check out just what might happen on Dec. 21, 2012, and the Mysteries of the Maya Calendar:
2012 Maya Calendar Mystery and Math vs. Thor’s Day, Worship the Sun Day, …

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INM DF Central Hotline Gives Consistent Answers on FM3/FM2 to Permanent Resident Questions

Nov 14, 2012 Update
Our full article on the New Immigration Rules for Mexico is at:
New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico – Nov. 11, 2012
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Surviving Yucatan has been receiving some really fine reports from expats around Mexico, describing how the 2011 INM law and new regs are actually working. Since these reports are entered in the Comments section of either of 1 post or 2 articles, some readers may not see all of them. We especially liked the details and thorough-ness of one reader’s efforts.

Here is that novel set of comments:

Gary writes: (11/14/2011)
I called the Hotline in DF four separate times today to see if I would get a different answer when speaking to another agent than the first one this morning, and, the answer from the four was the same;

1) When renewing, you can renew from one to four years, depending on how long you want to stay. If you have two years on your current visa and only want to renew for two years, that’s fine.
~ At the end of the four years total (does not matter whether the first year or two or three were FM2 or FM3), you may then request a change to Residente Permanente based on four years residence;
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however, if you are here as a rentista no lucrativo, you will be asked to provide six bank statements** to prove that you have the monthly minimum required for Permanente ($2500 US ??)

2) You do not have to change to Permanente, just as you are not required to do now.
At the expiration of you Temp Visa, you may renew for 1-4 years at your discretion and stay in the country indefinitely. However each four years (if you renew for four years) you will have to once again show bank statements for six months showing the minimum monthly is being met. You do not have to leave the country and reapply in the US or Canada. You renew as you currently do forever…

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Wow, your repeated questions got some pretty tight answers, detailing the precise conditions of possible paths to change from a current FM2 or FM3 permit to a Residente Permanente permit.

I especially like the distinction that Gary drew out by questioning around how their might be differences between lucrativo FM3/FM2s vs rentista no lucrativo FM3/FM2 permit holder requirements. This might explain why some applicants are being asked to show bank statements, and others do not show bank statements. ??

Are any readers out visiting the regional offices finding confirmation of the requirements/rules they described to Gary?

One local Merida report, from an expat residency applicant, says that the local INM offices are NO LONGER doing final approvals or laminating Tarjetas de Residencia any more. Each application is now sent to a central office in DF, where they cross-check the applicant’s information, issue a final approval, and print and laminate the Tarjeta de Residencia (Residency Card).

These extra steps involving some central INM office in DF are reported to extend the whole application and approval process out to a total of 30 days (or more?).

If some central INM office in DF is reviewing all applications, then maybe they will have final say over approving the variations in requirements being reported from different regional INM offices?

Yet more fun things to wait-and-see how they are resolved.

Anybody else experiencing similar things or reading similar first-person reports?
steve

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Mexico’s New Rules and Procedures for Immigrants and Visiting Tourists


Our full article on the New Immigration Rules for Mexico is at:
New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico – Nov. 11, 2012

Nov. 10, 2012 Fresh Updates
The INM now answers questions over the fone:
Immigration Hotline
01-800-004-6264
24 hours / day and 7 days a week.
They answer quickly and a few speak English.

Special Thanks! to John Garvin for being persistent to ferret out and share this tasty update.

Why did John call them?
To find out that: “the time on a FM-3 does not count. Time on a FM-2 does count towards Permanent Resident.

This confirms what Cancun INM agents told us last week, but it contradicts reports about how 2 other regional INM offices have initially answered this key question.
Thanks John!

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A full set of details and instructions on
~ How to Visit Mexico: Immigration, Importation, and Traveling with Children, and
~ How to apply for Residency in Mexico
~ How the new Immigration Rules fit with becoming a Naturalized Citizen and
~ Rights and Responsibilities of Residents and Naturalized Citizens in Mexico …
can be found at New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico

If you want summaries of the previous changes (taking effect on Nov. 9, 2012), describing the details that affect tourists and expats in Mexico, please see our previous older Article on the May 2012 New Immigration Law at: New Immigration Law Published for Mexico

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Updated Mexican Immigration Rules


Our full article on the New Immigration Rules for Mexico is at:
New Rules and Procedures for Immigration, Visiting, and Staying in Mexico
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If you want summaries of the previous changes (taking effect on Nov. 9, 2012), describing the details that affect tourists and expats in Mexico, please see our previous older Article on the May 2012 New Immigration Law at: New Immigration Law Published for Mexico

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Dengue Treatment News: Dengue Virus Sanofi Vaccine Trial Report

Sept 13, 2012 Update
There have been a number of recent sketchy media reports on NPR and the NY Times (Sept. 3, 2014) etc on a new Dengue virus vaccine from Sanofi. Unfortunately, company press releases and media reports really don’t contain sufficient details to understand the Sanofi study results. Here are one public health scientist’s views.
Full article at: Dengue News: Dengue Virus Sanofi Vaccine Trial Report – The Article

The Good News:
~ The new Sanofi vaccine appears to work well against 3 of the 4 strains (serotypes) of Dengue Virus: DV1, DV3, & DV4.
~ This is big news, because no previous attempts at Dengue vaccines have worked against even one strain of Dengue Virus.
~ The ability to give some protection from 3 out of 4 could help people in some areas.    .    .    .
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The Bad News:
~ The new Sanofi virus showed no statistically significant difference in reducing Dengue infection is a Phase 2 trial in Thailand using 4002 school children.

~ Strain 2 of Dengue Virus is the strain that has been causing the worst symptoms.

~ Strain 2 of Dengue Virus is very prevalent here in Yucatan. . . . .

If readers want more information on Dengue Treatment, Dengue virus life cycles, Dengue prevention, and Mosquito prevention, please see our Dengue Fact sheet at: Dengue Fact Sheet – May 2012 Update ~ and also click on the “Science, Tech, and Health” button (above) to read more details.
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Tropical Storm (Hurricane?) Ernesto’s Potential Paths

People on various message boards for the SurEste de Mexico (a.k.a. the Yucatan Peninsula) have been predicting a direct laser-like hit by Ernesto on Merida and Progreso.

We at Yucalandia have a slightly different take on the official US NOAA and Natl. Hurricane Center data on Ernesto.

See full article at: Tropical Storm (Hurricane?) Ernesto’s Potential Paths

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Official Voting Instructions for US Citizens Abroad

It’s that time again.

We are approaching the 2012 US elections, and the voter registration rules for US citizens abroad have changed.

The US Embassy in Mexico has made a good synopsis of the new rules, and given good how-to descriptions of how to vote in the upcoming US elections for US citizens living internationally.

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ACA – Obamacare’s Effects on American Expats Living Abroad

After Friday’s Supreme Court announcement on the ACA – Obamacare, there are bundles of questions that now arise affecting US citizens who are outside the USA.

This article is for all the Americans traveling or living abroad who have, so far, avoided learning about the Affordable Care Act (ACA), affectionately known as “Obamacare” to those interested in Obama’s legacy.

Many readers now wonder what are the effects on US expats, now that the US Supreme Court has ruled that Obamacare is legal.

Are US citizens outside the US covered / protected by the ACA? . . .
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ACA “Obamacare”: Necessary Change or “Bigger must be Better” ?

Why I changed my mind this weekend,  … or …

Is the ACA all it’s cracked-up-to-be:   Is there more-than-meets-the-eye ?

Does “Obamacare” actually address the real problems plaguing US healthcare?

Reform the failed system by making it even bigger?

Is Bigger always better ? . . .

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Full article at: ACA “Obamacare”: Necessary Change or “Bigger must be Better” ?

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Quick ‘n Easy Conversions etc

Flotsam and jetsam:  Just more shmata, drek or occasionally useful stuff, nu?

Trash and treasure really are in the eye of the beholder.

What follows is an egocentric (living?) collection of odds and ends.

As a science guy, people have often asked if there is …

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Banking, Exchanging Currency, & Using Credit Cards & ATMs in Mexico –


Confused about the ins-and-outs of changing money in Mexico and the USA, how to get reliable exchange rates, plus some of the nitty gritty details on how the credit card, bank debit cards, currency exchange and ATM systems work? Rather than a dry discourse of skads of financial details and jargon that make our eyes glaze over, we’re going to try give you some tricks to make managing your travel dollars easily and well.

Some expat experts proclaim:
~~ Using a credit card will always give you the worst exchange rates anywhere in the world. ~~
~~ Credit cards always give the best exchange rates. ~~
~~ ATMs are the only way to go! ~~
~~ Try to get the official exchange rates! ~~
~~ None of us have enough money to ever get the published rate. ~~
~~ I have always used Traveler’s Checks. Aren’t they still the best choice? ~~


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Poe fans in Merida, Yucatan (?)

May 28 update: (see below)
3 guys were seen by the police taking stuff out of 64 year old Pennsylvania retiree Leo Robert Wicard’s home (per SIPSE ~  or  60 year old “Robert Leen Wicard” per Diario de Yucatan ~)  in San Sebastian, Merida, Yucatan at 4 en la madrugada. The guys explained that they were taking the stuff to be pawned…

The cops smelled something putrid and found the body   ~   rotting   ~ “semi-interned”  ~  in the house.

The men had lived with the decaying corpse for 2 weeks…

One American’s blog is reporting that one of the participants is a transvestite, a twist that even Poe had not imagined.

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Yet another reason to have good relations with the neighbors?
Por Esto reports that the murderers had the run of his house for 2 weeks, before someone finally called police.  ~ Wicard was not known(?) nor well-liked(?) by his neighbors. ~ ??

Update:
. . . Subsequent unverified “news reports” over the 2 days following initial reports, now include salacious details that claim that Wicard was a homosexual who supposedly had open door, open house, and open bottle policies for guests who stopped by his home. If the allegations are true, then this becomes a warning tale of the potential risks of inviting strangers into our homes.
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Full article at: Lo matan en su casa
Asesinos ocultan al extranjero en su propio jardín

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Steven M. Fry

Read on, MacDuff!

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El, La, “a”, “o” … Easy as Pie? or Fraught with Confusion for Gringos?

La,   El,   “a”   or   “o“…

Cruising the web this morning exposed yet another gringo saying:
“O” endings on words are masculine      😮 ”

This “gem” of wisdom came from a well experienced gringo who posts very regularly, claims over 20 years on & off in Mexico, and a guy who spins good “insider” yarns about hanging out with many of Merida’s elite, writing advice rich with personal ideas of Mexican/Yucatecan culture.

This little “gem” is particularly seductive, because it is so simple.
Easy to understand, easy to remember, and so easy to apply.

Have any readers considered that overly-simple gringo-Spanish rules might have caused your workers or store clerk to briefly look askance at you, and gotten you unexpected and sometimes frustrating results?
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Unfortunately, expat assumptions that  “o”  endings means masculine & that  “a”  endings means feminine,  is a major cause of eye-rolling by knowledgeable Spanish speakers. Casual gringo usages of  “el”  and  “la”  also raise myriads of misunderstandings between good-intentioned gringos and their Spanish/Mexican listeners.

Briefly consider how “a” and “o” and “á” endings right can get gringos into no end of problems: . . .

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Full Article at: El, La, “a”, “o”: Easy as Pie? or Fraught with Confusion for Gringos?
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Steven M. Fry

Read-on MacDuff . . .

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